A reader advocates deleting Type 4 1932 Sanella Babe Ruths. Here is his argument:
In 1932 (according to PSA) or 1933 (according to SGC) a German margarine company called Sanella issued various sports cards and an album into which 112 cards could be glued. The only cards about baseball had pictures on the front of either Babe Ruth or a Japanese catcher. In the album, there was only 1 place to put a Babe Ruth card — even though on the back of the Ruth Sanella cards there are variations of the printed material.
SGC and PSA collectively have graded well over 90% of the roughly 800 Babe Ruth Sanella cards graded.
Both SGC and PSA initially listed the following 2 types of Babe Ruth Sanella cards:
Type 1 – Sanella centered
Type 2—Sanella near the bottom
Eventually it was determined that of the Ruth cards with Sanella near the bottom, a few had near the top the phrase “Seite 83” (qhich means page 83– where a Ruth card fits in the album), but most did not. So both SGC and PSA listed a new type:
Type 3 — Sanella near the bottom with 83
From 2004 through the present, I have reviewed almost every listing on Ebay of graded and ungraded Babe Ruth Sanella cards.
In 2004 I saw and purchased a Ruth Sanella card graded by PSA as type “4” (PSA serial number 11697136). To the best of my recollection, at the time I bought that type “4” card, PSA had graded only 4 type “4”, 26 type 1, about 23 type 3 and over 200 type 2 Babe Ruth Sanella cards. As I reviewed the PSA population report from time to time, the numbers of graded Ruth Sanella cards increased for types 2, 3 and 4, but not for type 1. At first, that seemed odd. Later, it seemed very coincidental. After a couple of years, it seemed virtually impossible that there would be more and more types 2, 3 and 4, but no more type 1.
I have never seen a Ruth Sanella card with the Sanella centered that did not have Seite 83 near the top. This includes ungraded cards which the sellers called type 1 as well as cards graded by PSA and SGC as type 1.
On several occasions I listed for sale on Ebay Ruth Sanella cards graded as type 1 or 4 by PSA or SGC, noted that I believe type 1 and 4 were the same, and asked anyone to contact me if they had seen a Ruth Sanella with the Sanella centered and no Seite 83 near the top. No one ever has ever responded.
Hans, who is copied on this email, has sold literally hundreds of Babe Ruth Sanella cards, after buying them ungraded in Germany (usually pasted in albums and then removing them) and then having them graded by PSA or SGC. Hans has told me that he has never seen even 1 Babe Ruth Sanella card with Sanella centered and no Seite 83 near the top. He is convinced type 1 and 4 are the same.
I have contacted PSA and SGC about type 1 and 4 being the same, but they both said they will not change the way they are calling the Sanella types unless the Standard Catalog of Baseball Cards changes first.
Interestingly, after I communicated with PSA several times last week about the belief that Hans and I have that type 1 and 4 are the same, Hans received grades for Ruth Sanella cards he submitted recently – and one of them was graded as a type 1! Here is what Hans found when he checked his order online:
4
1
14912692
EXCELLENT-MINT 6
1932 SANELLA MARGERINE BABE RUTH TYPE 1-SANELLA CENTERED
The 4 means item 4 in his order; the 1 means there was 1 card; the 14912692 is the PSA serial/certificate number and the rest is self-explanatory. Hans has not received this card back from PSA yet, but he knows the Sanella is centered and the phrase Seite 83 does indeed appear near the top.
I want someone to disprove this. Can anyone email me (don at prospecthillpub.com) a pic Type 1 without the “83″ and give us a reason not to change it in the 2009 catalog?
Here’s a pic of front & back of a “mis-slabbed” Type I just for your reference:


Can you explain to me why these cards appear to be so under valued and under appreciated? The 33 Goudey which Beckett lists as Ruth’s Rookie, so technically this card should be a Rookie, sells for thousands and thousands of dollars, and yet the Sanella which is, I think, quite beautiful lists for 200-300 hundred depending on the version in both the annual Becket and SCD. To me that is ludicrous! Further, in the Beckett Graded Card Investor and Price Guide, they do not even list the 1932 Babe Ruth Sanella Margarine, Type 2, or any other version of this card. What is your take on this subject? Do you think it is because Becket has not had the chance to buy up enough of these cards yet and then drive up the price? I am curious.
Great stuff. First, I have no control over what Beckett does or does not call a rookie…and what they price it. I have respect for their price guides and hobby publications; it takes a lot of work, building credibility is a constant goal, and your pricing will be challenged by people on both sides, some who think it’s high, others who cry “low!”
We do not call 1933 Goudey Ruth(s) rookie cards.
As for the politics of market pricing, it looks to me like you feel that the Sanellas are undervalued–and therefore still a bargain.
In the long run, my instincts say that these cards will likely appreciate in value, although there’s no way to say for sure. I agree, they’re great-looking cards and are not well appreiciated… why they aren’t given the stature of other classic food issues (example, 1954 Wilson Franks Ted Williams) I cannot tell you. If I had some idle income to invest, I’d think about these, even though I am a diehard Red Sox fan, so that tells you what I think.
I think that because this is a german issue and are printed in german makes this card not well appreciated. Card collecting is not big in Germany like it is in the United States and England. Theres not much demand for german cards period.
I purchased one of these cards in 2005 on ebay. I’m curious if there are a lot of fakes out there? Mine looks and feels like it’s on normal paper…not very thick. Is this standard and could it be fake?
Thanks!
I have a question about the babe ruth sanella card: first why does it make a difference if sanella is on the buttom or in the middle? are there fewer produced from either card? I just received a babe ruth ASTRA card with ASTRA on the buttom, book page # 83 under the description of top from card, the only difference to me is the po box 125 with sanella und 54 with astra also a margarine product. I have never seen any Astra card for sale does it mean this card is worth more than the sanella brand which are all over ebay? thank you so much for your help
best regards
Werner
The short answer is, it matters where the Sanella name is on the back because there are variations out there, and collectors like to acquire all of the variations. After all the classifications are properly made as what variations are out there, then the market sorts out if one or the other is rarer, and if one is worth more than the other or not.
As for the Astra versus Sanella in regards to rarity and value–yes, generally, rarer cards are worth more. In the case of Sanellas versus Astras, it’s hard to say exactly because there isn’t a whole lot of demand for these German cards in the U.S. market–at least compared to U.S. issues such as Leaf, Goudey, etc. So how much more are Astras worth than Sanellas? I would like to see 25 more sales per year between traditional auctioneers and ebay than I do now to just start firing off numbers with confidence.
The short answer is: Check the Catalog and give your Astra card a good objective grade. It would probably be worth 5-10 times more.
Fluckzilla,
Still curious about my question above….
Do I have a fake or are there fakes out there….mine feels like regular paper.
Thanks!
hey, i’m looking to buy one…. is there a difference in value between the types 1-4? If so which is worth the most?
Thanks